The Romans 13 ordeal

Some Christians use Romans 13 as a reason to participate and gain from Satan’s world [man’s legal world, worldly nations] through membership. It is that membership, aroused by the law, which tempts us towards sinful passions [artifice/mammon/respecting flattering titles, that which is not of sound doctrine] that bears the fruits for death— this is not The Way, for we are to be dead in the eyes of the law so that we can follow wholly to the example of Christ [Rom 7:4-6, Gal 2:15-21]. People will subscribe to the idea that those passages about being dead to the law only refers to the Mosaic Law, thus modern civil systems do not adhere to that, so it is okay to be surety for a stranger placing man’s law above God’s and take on a legal flattering title to pursue mammon [money, or trust in an ungodly thing; trust in secular paperwork]. A civil system is godless. The term civil means a government secularly organized for uninterrupted commerce [“peace”], and it is synonymous with the word secular. It’s not just the Mosaic Law we are to be dead to, but any system of laws that breaks the great commandment from Christ [Mat 22:37]. One cannot say he loves the Father with all his heart, soul, and mind when he voluntarily becomes a member of a nation that places man’s law above God’s. Besides, the U.S. system of law is admittedly influenced by the Mosaic Law. We should not walk as the gentiles do [Eph 4:17-20] and have membership in this world. Not only did Christ deny it [Mat 4:1-11], he openly exposed it’s evils [Jhn 7:7]. In those Matthew verses Satan offered Jesus “all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them”, and in this sense “glory” means “their resources, wealth, the magnificence and greatness of their cities, their fertile lands [to sustain civil life], their thronging population.” He did not offer the things of God, but offered from man’s system of things [secular kingdoms/nations and their glory] that operates in opposition to God’s law. The Old English language recognized this with the term “baly” which meant “evil; sorrow” and also “dominion; government.”

The 23 marble relief portraits over the gallery doors of the House Chamber depict historical figures [Jesus Christ not being recognized] noted for their work in establishing the principles that underlie American law. Among them are Greek, Roman, French and English jurists; statesmen and rulers from Europe and Eurasia; and American political leaders George Mason and Thomas Jefferson. The 11 profiles in the eastern half of the chamber face left and the 11 in the western half face right, so that all look towards the full-face relief of Moses in the center of the north wall.“— https://www.capitol.gov/html/VGN_2010061458093.html

“DEATH:
10. Separation or alienation of the soul from God; a being under the dominion of sin, and destitute of grace or divine life; called spiritual death.

‘We know that we have passed from death [dominion of sin; spiritual death, civil life] to life [civil death, spiritual life], because we love the brethren.’ 1 John 3:1. Luke I.

Civil death is the separation of a man from civil society, or from the enjoyment of civil rights; as by banishment, abjuration of the realm, entering into a monastery, etc.” — Webster’s 1828 Dictionary

“BALY.
(1) Evil; sorrow.
(4) Dominion; government.” — A Dictionary of Archaic and Provincial Words: Obsolete Phrases, Proverbs, and Ancient Customs, from the XIV Century, 1904

The most simple way to discount this notion of being part of Satan’s world is to contemplate on the words that are being used in Romans 13 and similar verses [Tit 3:1, 1 Pe 2:13]. “To be subject to/unto” is not the same as “to be a subject of.” We are to respect the ordinances of these gentile nations [not over and above God’s law], for their artificial existence is the will of God, but they do not force membership. We are to be subject to, not voluntary subjects of. Romans 13:9 recalls one of the ten commandments to not commit adultery. This adultery is to “have unlawful intercourse with another’s wife.” This commandment is not only the physical intercourse with another man’s wife but legal intercourse with a gentile nation [Jas 4:4]. “Intercourse” in legalese means, “Dealings or communications, especially between businesses, governmental entities, or the like.” It is okay for a true follower of Christ to communicate with governmental entities, but it is unlawful [to God] to communicate or deal for the outcome of becoming a member and gaining in the flesh from it. Also consider that gentile nations in The Bible are referred to as feminine terms like “her” [Jer 51:45, Rev 18:4], and you can see these nations as being wives of Satan. We are to have a spiritual intercourse with God/Christ [Isa 54:5, 2Co 11:2] in our citizenship in heaven [Phl 3:20], not a spiritually dead legal intercourse with Satan/nations in a secular/public/civil citizenship.

Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.” – KJV, Jas 4:4

“intercourse. 1. Dealings or communications, esp. between businesses, governmental entities, or the like.” — Black’s Law 9th

We are to be followers of Christ who was not ‘a subject of’ any nation. He was not of this world [Jhn 18:36], but He and His disciples were subject to them. Jesus communicated with Pontuis Pilate when the pharisees demanded him to use his political power to commit capitol punishment against Jesus, but when Jesus spoke the Truth unto Pilate he responded to the jews, “I find in him no fault at all.” This is because Jesus never voluntarily registered and did not break any of Rome’s laws. Jesus respected man’s dominion, never trespassed, and never rebelled against the legal authorities.

Tit 3:1, 1 Pe 2:13-20 say the same as Romans 13 but are written a little differently. Take notice that in 1 Pe 2:15-16 it says that we “may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.” The term “free” here means to have no obligations like the civil obligations that citizens carry to their gentile nation. We are not to walk as the gentiles do [Eph 4:17-20] and participate in that world for private gain, for doing so is not only serving mammon [Mat 6:24], but having obligations of putting man’s law above God’s. Citizenship oaths require renouncing ALL former sovereigns, and followers of Christ do not take oaths [Mat 5:34-37]. We are not to use this liberty to break their laws.

“obligation. 2. A formal, binding agreement or acknowledgment of a liability to pay a certain amount [taxes] or to do a certain thing for a particular person or set of persons [municipalities, governmental agencies]; esp., a duty arising by contract. Also termed (in sense 2) civil obligation.” Black’s Law 9th

“GE’NTILE.
n.s. [gentilis, Latin.]
1. One of an uncovenanted nation; one who knows not the true God.”— A Dictionary of the English Language, by Samuel Johnson. 1755

gentile,
adjective:
3. In gram., expressing nationality, local extraction, or place of abode; describing or designating a person as belonging to a certain race, country, district, town, or locality by birth or otherwise: as, a gentile noun (as Greek, Arab, Englishman, etc.); a gentile adjective (as Florentine, Spanish, etc.).
noun:
4. In gram. a noun or adjective derived from the name of a country or locality, and designating its natives or people: as the words Italian, American, Athenian, are gentiles.” — 1889 Century Dictionary

Verses like Romans 13 are a command to obey your sovereign [Tit 2:9, Eph 6:5-9], but also a warning for all to not rebel against the powers that be, for there will be suffering [Rom 13:4]. Your sovereign is that who dictates the laws you have a duty to follow. Jesus Christ instructs us to renounce the world and correct the record [Tit 2:11-15]; declaring privacy to the earthly authorities that you belong to Yehovah and your prince is the Prince of Peace. If you are a Christian bonded to a gentile nation that allows renouncing your public status [most do], God is calling you to leave her [Isa 48:20]. There are no excuses to stay [Luk 14:16-24]. These nations are ordained by God to govern sinners [1 Tim 1:8-10, Pro 8:15-16] because of the free will of people wanting to break God’s laws and be ruled by man, and The Bible clearly warns of this [1 Sam 8:10-22]. “And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day.” God will not hear you in your gentile membership, for you have broken the first commandment [Exo 20:3, Deu 5:7] of putting gods before Him. The term used for “gods” in the first commandment “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” is ‘ĕlōhîm which in this sense refers to both pagan supernatural gods and rulers/judges. We are to respect the ordinances of these gentile nations, for their artificial existence is the will of God, but they do not force membership. This civil public membership is a voluntary subjection that makes you an agent (slave) who takes on the appearance of a secular government created recognizable legal entity [your surnamed per-son; Maxim of law: “The creator controls”]. Most of us are slaves to the beast system. We can become lawfully free, therefore we must [1 Cor 7:21]. We are not be yoked (joined) with them [2 Co 6:14].

“10. Law is for Lawbreakers: “We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine” (1 Timothy 1:8-10).

11. No Need to Change One’s Social Status [deceptive]: “Pilate then…summoned Jesus and asked him, ‘Are you the king of the Jews?’ …Jesus said, ‘My kingdom is not of this world…’ (John 18:33, 36). “Each man must remain in that condition in which he was called. Were you called while a slave? Do not worry about it; BUT IF YOU ARE ABLE ALSO TO BECOME FREE, RATHER DO THAT. For he who was called in the Lord while a slave, is the Lord’s freedman; likewise he who was called while free, is Christ’s slave… Brethren, each one is to remain with God in that condition in which he was called” (1 Corinthians 7:20-22, 24). “Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ” (Ephesians 6:5).” — University Of Wisconsin-Madison, Legal Studies Program, Sources Of Law 1: The Bible [Quoting from NIV]

“What the Seal of the United States of America represents, to anyone who takes it seriously, is a Ministry of Sin. A speech by Jesuit political scientist Michael Novak, published in the January 28, 1989 issue of America, the weekly magazine of American Jesuits, sums it up eloquently enough:
The framers wanted to build a “novus ordo” that would secure “liberty and justice for all”…. The underlying principle of this new order is the fact of human sin. To build a republic designed for sinners, then, is the indispensable task…. There is no use building a social system for saints. There are too few of them. And those there are are impossible to live with!… Any effective social system must therefore be designed for the only moral majority there is: sinners.‘” Rulers of Evil: Useful Knowledge About Governing Bodies

Because man’s law recognizes Natural Law as the foundational Law they cannot force membership in it. One must volunteer to be part of it. Legal maxim: “Equity will not support a volunteer.” There is no real fairness in Satan’s world; you can find all kinds of ridiculous laws and court cases where the judge’s ruling is completely unfair. Man’s law expects from you complete adherence to it, over and above God’s law. It is even in your name. Your surname [last name, aka nickname] is legally considered over and above your first name [given name, Christian name], and it is a mark [a trade-mark of commerce] signifying that you are a member in Satan’s world.

No one wants to hear this, but we are not to be subjects of this world and be deeply involved in it’s civil pursuits [2 Ti 2:3-7] despite all the luxuries it offers. This world is the world of the dead. Your per-son that is legally recognized is a non-living artificial entity created by the state. Yehovah is the God of the living, not the dead, and when one understands this he realizes the world is not worthy of him. With proper knowledge [Hos 4:6, Luk 11:52] and the righteousness [right standing; status] exceeding the righteousness of the scribes [Mat 5:20] you can truly begin your journey on the right hand path to the Kingdom of God here and now by going through a resurrection from civil death unto spiritual life. Nations do recognize moral men without public status, and some [i.e. USA] have obligations to serve them. Doing this does not lead to a life free of hardships, but it does give you real liberty under God if you are following Christ/the laws of nature. Christ and his followers have been persecuted for it even to this day, so expect the same to you if you were to truly follow Him [Mat 5:10-12].

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